Response to Lenticularis39
786/303
In response to the last comment by them, here https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeSpeechBahai/comments/1dihgst/comment/l95wdwd/?context=3
I would qualify Jalāl by saying it is a whitewashed rehash of the Bayān, i.e. like taking a sumptuous and expensive banquet of food and throwing it to dogs and coming back to see what the dogs have made of it. Then again, as the saying goes, the devil (Haba') is the ape of God. But even when the devil apes God, it disfigures and makes the Image of God inverted in every respect. This is the case with the aqdas's whitewashed rehash of the Bayānic ordinances from the first word to its last. But here is the clincher, if you recognize and state that "Bahá'ís did teach the Bayánic law" then you have automatically called into question Haba' as well as his son, and so called them both liars when they have uttered shameless falsehoods and BS such as this:
Bahāʾullāh
…The detractors and critics [i.e. the Bayānīs] hold fast to four words: first, the words “and cut off the necks”; and second, “burn [all] books”; and, third, avoid other nations; and, fourth, the annihilation of all creeds…(my trans.)
Original Persian:
معرضين و منكرين به چهار كلمه متمسک، اول كلمه فضرب الرّقاب و ثانی حرق كتب و ثالث اجتناب از ملل اُخری و رابع فنای احزاب
In Bahāʾullāh, majmuʿiʾī az alwāh-i-jamāl-i-qidam-i-abhāʾ kih baʿd az kitāb-i-aqdas nāzil shudih (A collection of the tablets of the most splendorous ancient beauty which was revealed after the kitāb-i-aqdas) (National Publishing Trust of the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahāʾīs of Germany: Langenheim, 137 badīʾ), p.52, online https://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/b/TB/ (retrieved 23 June 2020).
ʿAbd’ul-Bahāʾ
…One must show fairness. For example, the ordinances of the Bayān include the cutting off of necks, the destruction of all books, epistles, writings and papers; the conquest of the east and west; and destruction of shrines…(my trans.)
Original Persian:
انصاف باید داد، از جمله احکام بیان ضرب اعناق اهل آفاق و حرق جمیع کتب و صحف و زبر و اوراق و فتح شرق و غرب و هدم بقاع مرتفعه
In ʿAbd’ul-Bahāʾ, muntakhabātī az makātīb-i-ḥaḍrat-i-ʿabd’ul-bahāʾ (Selections from the correspondences of his holiness ʿAbd’ul-Bahāʾ), vol. 4 (National Publishing Trust of the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahāʾīs of Germany: Langenheim, 2000), p.221, online https://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/ab/ (retrieved 23 June 2020).
The Bayān
The thirteenth gate of the ninth Unity
…Do not under any circumstances destroy any book…(my trans.)
Original Arabic:
انتم ابدا كتابا لا تحرقون
In the Arabic Bayān
(n.d., n.p.), online,
https://archive.org/details/ArabicBayan_201903, p.43 (PDF: 45) also http://bayanic.com/showPict.php?id=abay&ref=0&err=0&curr=0 (retrieved 23 June 2020).
The sixteenth gate of the eleventh Unity
…Do not murder any soul nor under any circumstance sever anything [i.e. limbs] from any person, if ye be believers in God and Its versical-signs. And whosoever commands this, undertakes it, or determines to prevent but doesn’t prevent it, or is content [with the action]; it is necessary for him in the Book of God to pay eleven thousand mithqāls of gold [in penalty]…(my trans.)
Original Arabic:
فلا تقتلن نفسا و لا تقطعن شيئا عن نفسا ابدا إن أنتم بالله و آياته مؤمنون و من يأمر ذلك او يفعل او يقدر ان يمنع و لم يمنع او يرضي فليلزمنه من كتاب الله احدى عشر الف مثقال من ذهب
In the Arabic Bayān
(n.d., n.p.), online,
https://archive.org/details/ArabicBayan_201903, p.60 (PDF: 62) also http://bayanic.com/showPict.php?id=abay&ref=0&err=0&curr=0 (retrieved 23 June 2020).
--
The All-High has indeed protected humanity from the spread of this malevolent virus known as bahaism by halting that spread. But It has even done better than just to protect because, just like Abraham (ع) and Muhammad (ص), It brought me forth out of an arrogant people of idolatry in order to deal with it like the prophets sent to the people of ‘Ad and Thamud were sent to those people to deal with them before God destroyed them permanently.
As for Masumian and Momen, whom you reference: they are malicious hacks and propagandists, and the All-High has already provided a few proverbial hard slaps to theirs faces. Like DavidbinOwen, this is among those reasons why more recently they appear to have backed off like rabid guard dogs who have been put back into their kennels after barking too much and annoying everyone around them.
والله خير القاهرين
